
While waiting for the next session to start, I was roaming around. This was the area where the posters were displayed.
Here is the following session:-
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Virtual Worlds in Schools: some challenges.
Speaker: Guy Merchant (RL) Gdot Spires (SL) Professor of Literacy in education and coordinator of the Language and Literacy Research Group, Sheffield Hallam University
Moderator: Sheila Yoshikawa
Duration 50 minutes
Here is the key sentences / words / phrases / highlights from his presentation as presented by the moderator:
Sheila Yoshikawa: ok he is chasing three themes from the data
[3:25] Sheila Yoshikawa: 2nd is to do with relationship with curriculum
[3:25] Sheila Yoshikawa: 3rd to do with literacy elements
[3:25] Sheila Yoshikawa: so – the first of these "designing and imagining"
[3:26] Sheila Yoshikawa: a group of adults sitting in a room devising something for the children
[3:26] Sheila Yoshikawa: made him think about how these things so often have to start with imagination
[3:26] Sheila Yoshikawa: the imagination of the teachers
[3:26] Sheila Yoshikawa: "make and remake the conditions of our existence"
[3:26] Sheila Yoshikawa: though ALSO constrained by day to day realities
[3:27] Sheila Yoshikawa: the realities of lived lived experience and practical etc constraints
[3:27] Sheila Yoshikawa: so here he contrasts tthe PLANNING vs the compromise of ACTUAL activity
[3:28] Sheila Yoshikawa: so PLANNED for exploration, discovery, pupils making meeting
[3:28] Sheila Yoshikawa: however
[3:28] Sheila Yoshikawa: when looked at data from classrooms
[3:28] Sheila Yoshikawa: there were GUIDEd activities, DIRECTED work, COMPREHENSION exercises
[3:29] Sheila Yoshikawa: so teacher described an activity where students had to look at planning documents in the town hall
[3:29] Sheila Yoshikawa: but she told them where it was
[3:29] Sheila Yoshikawa: and set a comprehension exercise
[3:29] Sheila Yoshikawa: which matched the SATS test format
3:29] Sheila Yoshikawa: so translating into familiar classroom routines and practice
Sheila Yoshikawa: this is not surprising given the UK education system’s emphasis on accountability, testing etc ;-(
Exosius Woolley: Do you have any information on the age groups of instructors?
[3:31] Sheila Yoshikawa: here Gdot is showing how teachers were linking their practice
[3:32] Sheila Yoshikawa: to the existing requirements for literacy learning
[3:32] Janna Abeyante: Yes this is very important! We have a lot of roles to follow!
[3:32] Sheila Yoshikawa: for example it is part of the national curriculum in England to learn about "genres" of writing
[3:33] Sheila Yoshikawa: also using familiar techniques and tools and activities
[3:33] Sheila Yoshikawa: also timetables separation of literacy and technology
[3:33] Sheila Yoshikawa: so again in the English national curriculum these are both areas that have to be taught
[3:33] Sheila Yoshikawa: but they are separate subjects
[3:33] Sheila Yoshikawa: there has to be timetabled time for literacy
[3:34] Sheila Yoshikawa: and (often very small) timetabled time for "technology"
[3:34] Sheila Yoshikawa: this is an obstacle!
[3:34] Sheila Yoshikawa: not insurmountable, but certainly get in the way
[3:34] Rumi Saeed: wow, 30"/week is an OBSTACLE
[3:34] Janna Abeyante: To work in themes makes more time!
[3:36] Sheila Yoshikawa: it was interesting how the PUPILS were using the educational jargon
[3:36] Sheila Yoshikawa: the official jargon of literacy
[3:36] Sheila Yoshikawa: which can seem a bit chilling
[3:36] Sheila Yoshikawa: however the pupils were not passive dupes!
[3:36] Sheila Yoshikawa: so in third part
[3:36] Sheila Yoshikawa: talking about how the pupils worked informally
[3:37] Sheila Yoshikawa: one of his favourite extracts
[3:37] Karelia Kondor: ㋡
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[3:38] Sheila Yoshikawa: "its absulutly brilliand MINTUS"
[3:38] Sheila Yoshikawa: i.e. happy to use bad spelling and lower case etc etc
[3:38] Sheila Yoshikawa says but no worse than me in SL on the whole
[3:38] Edith Halderman: but the rise of phonics
[3:39] Sheila Yoshikawa: so this did show their enthusiasm
[3:39] Sheila Yoshikawa: also the idea of the real and the fake
[3:39] Sheila Yoshikawa: "I get put off when i think the world is fake"
[3:39] Sheila Yoshikawa: did express feeling of immersion
[3:40] Sheila Yoshikawa: also "school trip syndrome"
[3:40] Sheila Yoshikawa: they like the exciting out of school trip
[3:40] Sheila Yoshikawa: but give it "kiss of death"
[3:40] Sheila Yoshikawa: by asking them to write about it
[3:41] Sheila Yoshikawa: so unfortunate this did happen for some
[3:41] Sheila Yoshikawa: was also "subversion" of rules
[3:41] Sheila Yoshikawa: now one thing was that teachers didn’t want children to run or fly
[3:42] Edith Halderman: power pedagogy?
[3:42] Sheila Yoshikawa: they wanted control!
[3:42] Sheila Yoshikawa: so didn’t explain to children how to do this
[3:42] JESSIE Gyranaut: still teacher centred
[3:42] JESSIE Gyranaut:
[3:42] Edith Halderman: and you thought the wouldn’t?
[3:42] Sheila Yoshikawa: so here an example of one person
[3:42] slammed Aabye: edumacators. Did they make them sit in rows too?
[3:42] Janna Abeyante: Bad!!!
[3:42] Sheila Yoshikawa: sharing how to do this
[3:42] Elektra Panthar: /is cringing at the spelling
[3:43] Kalyan Horatio: whose digital literacy was better? learners/tutors’?
[3:43] Gwen Gwasi: yikes
[3:43] Sheila Yoshikawa: anecdote
[3:43] Sheila Yoshikawa: teachers wanted children kept in town centre
[3:43] Enelya Pevensey:
[3:43] Sheila Yoshikawa: so children couldn’t get out!
[3:43] Ashlene McMinnar: lol
[3:43] Sheila Yoshikawa: "out of bounds" area
[3:43] Edith Halderman: and how long did it take them to get out?
[3:43] Sheila Yoshikawa: so no rows, but corralled
[3:43] Sheila Yoshikawa: but unrulines of learners
[3:44] slammed Aabye: police, town centres, walking …
[3:44] Janna Abeyante: And I thought they were still by the computers!!!
[3:44] Sheila Yoshikawa: some found that if you went to top of town hall, you walked through and landed outside
[3:44] Rumi Saeed: of course, children are so much cleverer than we are
[3:44] Rumi Saeed: and more creative when it comes to play while learning
[3:45] slammed Aabye: how much PD did the teachers get? was there a programme?
[3:45] slammed Aabye: professional development
[3:45] Elektra Panthar: not English, and can read typonese, but ohhh dear.. hehe
[3:45] Ashlene McMinnar: "Give some clues where you are", gotta love slang and text-chat.
[3:46] Elektra Panthar: indeed
[3:46] Rumi Saeed: Did they want to stay in virtual? Was there some reluctance to come out to write about it?
[3:47] Sheila Yoshikawa: what you have there is a standard response initiation-feedback move
[3:47] Gwen Gwasi: not a single image, Gdot?
[3:47] Kalyan Horatio: sinclair and Coulthard model of three moves
[3:47] Sheila Yoshikawa: so importing a mode where teacher eliciting and approving etc, importing it to virtaul world
[3:48] slammed Aabye: So there was a conscious fail potential before allowing the kids in?
[3:48] Sheila Yoshikawa: Hi there are some images in this ppt
[3:48] Sheila Yoshikawa: http://education.exeter.ac.uk/download.php?id=12014
[3:48] Sheila Yoshikawa: ok there are some in this ppt i just pasted
[3:49] Sheila Yoshikawa: so Gdot is finishing by just highlighting these issues
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[3:49] Rumi Saeed: What a wonderful learning environment for their creativity
[3:49] Rumi Saeed: Were the children reluctant to leave Barsborough?
[3:50] Gdot Spires: Constance Steinkheuller
[3:50] Gwen Gwasi: Active Worlds is a software?
[3:50] Sheila Yoshikawa: age of teachers question – no specific age
[3:50] Gwen Gwasi: does it support voice?
[3:50] Sheila Yoshikawa: would be people teaching that class age
[3:51] toBe Destiny: this pedagogy seems to be some type of imposition of education, what I call supply side learning.
[3:51] Sheila Yoshikawa: youngest about 29/3-0
[3:51] Sheila Yoshikawa: oldest 62
[3:51] Gwen Gwasi: did the software support voice?
[3:51] Rumi Saeed: Did you survey the teachers for their reaction to this? positive or not?
[3:51] Sheila Yoshikawa: so the answer abiout voice was no
[3:52] Sheila Yoshikawa: prof dev
[3:52] Gwen Gwasi: to develop this software must have cost a fortune
[3:52] Sheila Yoshikawa: 3 days with teachers
[3:52] Gwen Gwasi: and you dont have funds for teacher training?
[3:52] Sheila Yoshikawa: spent in the virtual world
[3:52] GuyVWboard1: You do not have permission to use this Flip Board.
[3:52] GuyVWboard1: You may request permission from the owner, by clicking the lock.
[3:52] toBe Destiny: is there a constructivist aspect to this, or are the children considered to young?
[3:52] slammed Aabye: its a worry that you let teachers in without development and practice – would impact the student experience negatively in comparison to more mature models like Ramapo Islands surely?
[3:52] Edith Halderman: was that Constance Steinkuhler?
[3:53] Edith Halderman: Activ Worlds
[3:54] Sheila Yoshikawa: children WERE fond of the world
[3:54] Sheila Yoshikawa: but activities spread out and just short visits
[3:54] slammed Aabye: Did you look at Quest Atlantis?
[3:54] Sheila Yoshikawa: better to have intensive period
[3:54] Sheila Yoshikawa: Did you survey the teachers for their reaction to this? positive or not?
[3:54] Rumi Saeed: yes, 1/2 hour a week is an obstacle
[3:54] Edith Halderman: oh both
[3:54] slammed Aabye: yep, its the back channel
[3:55] Sheila Yoshikawa: he did survey teachers
[3:55] Sheila Yoshikawa: they were all positive
[3:55] Sheila Yoshikawa: had technical probs (reral probs, issues with tech in schools
[3:55] Sheila Yoshikawa: getting access to computers
[3:56] Rumi Saeed: great! so they enjoyed the experiment…regardless of the technical problems
[3:56] Kalyan Horatio: what about parents’ response to using virtual world for teaching given the fact virtual world involves gaming, violence and sex too
[3:57] Sheila Yoshikawa: is there a constructivist aspect to this, or are the children considered to young?
[3:57] Sheila Yoshikawa: parents – were moral panics
[3:57] Sheila Yoshikawa: parents were high on the TEACHERS’ agenda
[3:57] Sheila Yoshikawa: afraid of scandal
[3:58] Edith Halderman: this is fascinating – when does he speak in SL again? an ISTE Eduverse Talk perhaps or a DEN speaker?
[3:58] Rumi Saeed: is the computer access/experience primarily at school for these children as opposed to at home as well?
[3:58] Gwen Gwasi: really?
[3:58] Sheila Yoshikawa: so e.g. Gdot can’t demo world when he gives talks
[3:58] slammed Aabye: /because Google and Messenger is so safe//// Grinds me how VWs are seen as less safe. Just sayin’
[3:58] Gwen Gwasi: how much did the software cost?
[3:58] Sheila Yoshikawa: so this is part of "protecting teh children"
[3:58] slammed Aabye: *are
[3:58] Sheila Yoshikawa: he thinks this was all over the top
[3:58] Edith Halderman: it is
[3:58] Sheila Yoshikawa: but i (sheila) would say it is understandable
[3:59] Sheila Yoshikawa: given way things can get blown up by the media into a scandal
[3:59] Janna Abeyante: An they say school is old!
[3:59] Edith Halderman: have you ever known a burgler to sit down and play a game while burglaring?
[3:59] Kalyan Horatio: That is really great to hear
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